Returning(帰還)シリーズ シャウド8 Q&A ※原文のみ

Returning(帰還)シリーズ シャウド8 Q&A ※原文のみ


The Returning Series:
SHOUD 8: “It Doesn’t Matter” – Featuring Tobias, channeled by Geoffrey Hoppe

Questions and Answers
Presented to the Crimson Circle
March 7, 2009

And so it is, dear Shaumbra, we come to the time of questions and answers on this day. Cauldre’s asked me one small favor or indulgence – that I do not answer the questions with “it doesn’t matter.” (laughter)

So, without going into further discourse, let us begin.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1 (read from the Internet by Linda): In the Shoud that Kuthumi talks about eating the whole elephant I was wondering if we continue to keep eating the whole elephant and continue moving and changing the energy, does this create a potential, not only for Shaumbra but all of humanity, to transition into the New Energy easier?

TOBIAS: Indeed, absolutely. First you’ll realize that it’s really not an elephant, that it’s really just a pea (laughter) – just very tiny, tiny, not this great big elephant – because it’s an illusion right now. It just feels enormous. But, yes, you continue to – when we say ‘eating the elephant’ – you continue to feel all of the energies, you continue to bring them in rather than to hold them outside of you.

There’s a tendency sometimes to only take in part of it. You’re trying right now to only take in what you would call the positive side of life. We invite you to take in all of it – good news, the bad news, the no news, the extreme news – bring it all in. By doing that, first of all, you provide yourself with a very balanced flow of energy. You allow yourself not only to see both sides of duality, but you allow yourself to see the other very interdimensional energies that are coming in at this point.

When you bring this energy in and feel it for yourself, without owning it and without blaming yourself for the woes of the world, you give yourself tremendous insight and perspective into what’s really going on. As we told a group also recently, things are not at all what they appear to be. It’s one of my favorite Kryon sayings. Things are not at all what they appear to be because there is something very, very different happening than just what you read on the surface.

As you allow yourself to absolutely absorb all of these feelings, understanding they’re not yours, you also read into and tap into all of the different potentials, all the different realities that exist, and all of the different facets. This provides a tremendous inspiration to you and a totally different way of looking at life. Rather than on a very linear path based on history and linear future, you now see that it is so much more encompassing and actually a lot more fun.

As you explore the grand potentials that exist within all of this energy right now and understand how to use it for yourself or how to enjoy it for yourself, this sets up a very grounded and anchored energy in the potential for humanity. This potential of change and evolution and what could be called enlightenment doesn’t necessarily feed into the matrix – the matrix meaning mass consciousness or the type of grid or the type of energy field and overlays that are set in place that so many people are just automatically bought into. The potentials lie slightly outside of that matrix for those who are willing to look somewhere other than the matrix, other than to old consciousness for answers.

The ones who are laying awake late at night saying, “There’s got to be a better way. There’s got to be something different. What is the answer?” Suddenly, they tap into the potential or the probability that you have helped to bring in and to actually embellish here on Earth. That’s the magnificence. You’re not trying to intrude on the matrix and you’re not trying to inflict your concepts of belief on them, but you’re presenting a broader, grander variety or potential for those who may want to choose it. So thank you for the question.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2 (a woman at the microphone): Hi Tobias. You know when you were talking about how it just doesn’t matter, I felt myself going off towards your cottage, seeing the beautiful flowers, walking up to your door, and then I realize I had a baseball bat and I wanted to chase you down and chase Saint-Germain down and say, “What the hell?! You should have given me the memo before I got here and had a kid,” Tobias. But just doesn’t f***ing matter anyway. So whatever.

TOBIAS: Well actually the memo is there, it’s laying on your desk. (laughter) You just didn’t want to look at. It’s there with a stack of other memos spanning many, many lifetimes. (more laughter) But, you know …

SHAUMBRA 2: Thank you.

TOBIAS: … you choose the experience, and actually I honor you for whatever you choose. And not to single you or anybody else out, but you could choose to do anything you want. You can choose to be magnificent, as you have done in this lifetime. You can choose to be …

SHAUMBRA 2: A spoiled rotten brat …

TOBIAS: … lost or confused or whatever, but actually I know you much better than that. So the memos are all there, absolutely all there. The wisdom of the ages is there available to anyone. It is not buried in the ground. It is not hidden in some other dimension. It is not held by the Anazasi Indians or the grand Hawaiians – nobody. It’s all there.

When you boil all of this wisdom – that many of you helped to write – down, it’s that God is you. You’re the creator. Now enjoy. Now experience. Now do anything you want. We’ll always be there, and if we’re not there, somebody else will be there to help guide you back if you get lost, but not all of you wanted to be guided back. Some of you want to come to our door with a baseball bat. (laughter) And then I simply make my cottage (snaps fingers) disappear. (lots of laughter) By the way, dear, your batting average is going way down. (more laughter)

SHAUMBRA 2: Sorry. Well, you know I’ve got my imagination too. But my little human … I’m not asking about dead grandma here, but I am asking about this real estate potential of this stuff and I’ve been using my intuition …


SHAUMBRA 2: …and I just wanted your insight on …

TOBIAS: Real estate is a wonderful thing right now. It’s tangible. It’s real. If you look at it in pragmatic terms, the market is down right now, and it will be a while before it comes back up. But I can tell you very clearly that the population on Earth is going to continue to grow. The need for housing will still be there, and I would actually encourage Shaumbra – stepping out off of Cauldre’s safety limb here – but I’m going to encourage Shaumbra to invest in real estate and to use it for rental or for commerce of some type, because you are literally and figuratively creating a safe space – a place where people are going to go not just to live but to feel these energies that you’re helping to bring in. Any house or any building that you buy and others occupy is going to be filled with potentials. What a grand thing this ‘real’ estate really is.

SHAUMBRA 2: I’m specifically talking about a mentoring opportunity that’s been presented – how you feel about those people.

TOBIAS: (hesitating) Let me say this, there are things to learn, but you’re absolutely going to go out on your own. Don’t follow a system or a structure right now. I mean take a look – let’s be logical for a moment – take a look around you. The systems don’t work anymore. The programs don’t work anymore. You are going to develop the new program. So learn a little bit about the in’s and out’s, but then, for all of you, no matter what you’re doing, don’t follow somebody else’s system no matter if it’s healing or investment or invention or anything else. Thank you.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3 (read from the Internet by Linda): I’ve been on my journey for four years now. I have felt …

TOBIAS: Uh, I have to stop there. (laughter) Ohhhh dear. You’ve been aware of your journey for four years, but you’ve been on your journey for a long time. Continue.

LINDA: I’m reading a question for somebody else, not for me.

TOBIAS: Indeed, I know … (Tobias chuckles and audience continues laughing)

LINDA: Ready?

TOBIAS: Indeed.

LINDA: Okay.

SHAUMBRA 3 (Linda continues): I’ve been on my journey for four years now. I’ve felt lost and anxious and sorrowful most of the time until I found the Crimson Circle online a month ago. I started reading the first Shouds. The writings all felt right to me. They answered many of my questions. The question now is, what am I spiritually and physically going through now relevant to the writings of the year 2000 or should I be only reading, say, the last year of Shouds? Thank you.

TOBIAS: Indeed. Read back, if you choose, if you find it enjoyable, and understand that you were going through those processes at the time. You’re not catching up at all. You’re just reading your own history, as the Shouds are the history of Shaumbra from around the world. Someday many, many others are going to read this. They’re going to read all of your history that’s contained in the Shouds.

So, if you choose to read back to find out where you’ve come from, but understand right now you don’t have to deliberately try to go back through those processes again. You’ve actually been with us this whole time. Thank you.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4 (a woman at the microphone): Hello Tobias, darling. I don’t have a question.

TOBIAS: Good. We can just talk.

SHAUMBRA 4: I don’t have an answer. (she and Tobias laugh) I’m celebrating a wonderful moment in my life emerging from the big, dark night of the soul. We talked about one maybe six or seven years ago – that was pretty horrible when the guides left – and I didn’t know if I would emerge from this one at all. I thought maybe I’d just hop over to the other side and call it a day. But I am very joyful at this moment. “It doesn’t matter” has been speaking to myself and Hoodie now for about two years, and there’s a voice with a very charming accent and we would hear it say, “It doesn’t matter!” So it was thrilling today and charming to hear you share this really profound concept with everyone, and I agree wholeheartedly.

TOBIAS: And it’s interesting that it will be difficult for many humans to hear this message, and they would get into a lot of philosophy and debate about why it does matter. So we would just say to them ‘okay, let it matter as long as you want it to.’ And truly we allow them – we want them – to enjoy their experience no matter what it is, because in the end it doesn’t matter. In the end duality comes back together in completion and then brings in this very what appears to be illusive thing called New Energy.

It’s happening and it’s going to continue to happen. It’s a choice made on a very individual, but yet a very collective basis by all those who ever left Home. So, it’s happening anyway, and it is a personal choice. There’s not somebody up above manipulating it. You know, that’s an interesting perception that many people have, but they like to have that. So, so be it. Allow them to have that.

SHAUMBRA 4: Also, if someone is really yearning from their heart for freedom, for liberation, you know, truly, this is so helpful. You see, it is completely librating to take into yourself that in fact it really doesn’t matter, it’s not to belittle your experience at all. Simply to understand that it doesn’t matter and you are free.

TOBIAS: But the freedom actually can be the most terrifying thing that a human or many angels can ever experience. Because when you cross through the doors of imprisonment, psychological or physical, you cross through those and you now go into freedom – there’s nothing there. And that in itself is frightening.

SHAUMBRA 4: Terrifying.

TOBIAS: Comes in the second level of fear, “If there’s nothing there and if I can create, what if I create wrongly? What if I create something – a demon or something – that harms myself or others?” So there’s a tendency to get to the door of freedom and bang on it saying you want out and demand that you want out and get very angry that you aren’t free. But if you stop … if anybody stops for a moment and looks, there’s a door handle there and it’s not locked and you can open it up at any point and have total freedom. But then the question comes back to what do you give up with total freedom? What comfort or what game or what consciousness do you give up if you’re totally free?

It’s interesting as Saint-Germain talks about ascension and explains it in his own way to Shaumbra and says, “When you go into ascension, what we metaphorically call the Third Circle, you are free, and you’re sovereign and you’re an absolute creator in your own right.” Oddly enough, about … let’s see, Saint-Germain knows the number … about 76 percent of Shaumbra feels that’s really boring. They, in a sense, don’t want that freedom. They, in a sense, very much enjoy what they’re doing on Earth, which is fine. But we’re challenging Shaumbra now to be able to experience that freedom, to be on Earth in physical body and to absolutely enjoy the experience of life.

SHAUMBRA 4: Yes. I recommend it.

TOBIAS: You could write a book about it!

SHAUMBRA 4: One other thing. A beautiful being has come into Hoodie’s and my life. Her name is Maggie. She is called a Weimaraner by description of the breed of dog she is. And – I don’t know – maybe you can tell us just a little something. I know she’s had some trials in this lifetime …

TOBIAS: When anybody, any Shaumbra, is considering their pets – oh, they’re such a marvelous thing and there’s a whole history of Tobias and Tobias, Jr. and dogs. It’s interwoven into all of our lifetimes. But take a look at the time that this precious one came into your life. You could say that pets – dogs and cats and a few birds – are generally the manifestation of a part of yourself.

They’re not what you would call your total self, but your energy is infused into them and they – these precious beings, these precious type of devas or type of earth beings, not quite angels, but they’re earth beings – they absorb your energy. So when one like this comes into your life, take a look at the timing when it came in, what it’s sharing back with you right now, which is probably love and wisdom, but also take a look at its past because that past also is a reflection of your past, in the case that you get a pet like this.

Now for those getting brand new pets, generally they are ones who have been with you before. They’re very familiar with your energy and your journey, and they’ve been walking along the path with you for as many lifetimes as you could count. So they generally feel very, very close. They’re like energy sponges – consciously. They pull your energy in and they help you work with it in such a loving way – as long as you’re choosing it to be loving.

So … when you look in its eyes understand that it is its own being, but it’s also being such a part of you as well.

SHAUMBRA 4: Thank you.

TOBIAS: Indeed. It’s helping … pets help to teach all how to love themselves.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5 (read from the Internet by Linda): Dear Tobias, there’s been a lot of media attention and controversy recently regarding the benefits of bioidentical hormones for those of us females over 40. Can you say more about the role of hormones in our bodies, especially those of us entering our next phase of life? Can they be used to help balance ourselves for a temporary time? And incidentally, why do menopausal symptoms seem to be so similar to those of ascension? (lots of laughter) Thank you from all of the female middle age Shaumbra who probably are at least 50 percent of your demographic.

TOBIAS: Indeed. So, several things. The symptoms of menopause have much to do with the integrating of the masculine/feminine self and really ultimately about loving the total self. So they are very, very similar to an ascension symptom, because it’s about integration and evolution and going through a life change.

As far as the biology, we’re recommending to Shaumbra that it is not a good idea to start interjecting a lot of outside influences into the body. There will come a time in the lifetime of most of you when there is a more balanced outside introduction, a balanced type of hormones or even in the stem cell type of therapy, but right now it’s very, very developmental and it’s actually carrying the consciousness of not only the researchers but humans in general, not quite sure if they’re ready to make that leap. So getting involved in some of these is not particularly advisable right now.

Go back into yourself. Your DNA is changing. You’re actually able to produce balancing hormones and balancing antibiotics within yourself. The whole concept of Standard Technology is that you are the healer. Your body already has either the direct cellular potential or the cellular future potential to absolutely balance your body. But don’t have expectations, because sometimes in a balancing of the body it also first does an unbalancing, which you’re going to perceive as getting sick or getting certain types of problems.

Don’t start tinkering with it. Trust your body. Talk to your body. Feel your body. Exercise your body – it’s like being with it – and allow this very interesting combination of DNA and hormonal changes and consciousness changes in your body to go through their process in a very, very natural way.

There are some days where that’s challenging, indeed, and you don’t know if your body’s going to make it through, but that’s when you really do the breathing and the allowing and the loving of your body, and let it adjust itself to the consciousness. The body tends to be the last in this whole chain of adjustments that are going on.

SHAUMBRA 5: Thank you.

TOBIAS: Indeed.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6 (a woman at the microphone): Okay, this week I was accidentally listening to past Shouds that popped up on my iTunes – thank you – from a couple of years ago, the Teacher Series, and I heard my voice come out of the computer suddenly as I was on there asking a question. And your answer was very profound and described me perfectly, and I realized, ‘Damn it, it’s two years later and I don’t think I’ve done any better at this. I’m still making everything difficult and complex. When am I going to let that go?’

But my main question is you talked in that time of how you’ve already gotten there. You made those choices – you know, you’re there, you’ve arrived, just like you said today, you’ve made it to your ascension or whatever you’re choosing – you’re now living it backwards. So you spoke of an example of just, like, you get up in the morning and you’re going to go to work. Well, you’ve already gotten to work. Now …

TOBIAS: Could I interrupt you for a moment?

SHAUMBRA 6: Go ahead.

TOBIAS: … respectfully. You have to get out of the head, out of the mind. And you’ve actually programmed yourself and adjusted yourself to continue to go through the mind. And we’ve talked about this so many times, but you still want to go that direction. And we’re getting very, very mindful here, very analytical. I’m going to ask you to take a deep breath, it … oh, and I said I wasn’t going to say that … (laughter)

SHAUMBRA 6: It doesn’t matter.

TOBIAS: Is it – I won’t say that – but is it important to you? (Tobias chuckles) It’s a different way of saying, does it matter? There’s this continual mental activity, and you feel lost without that mental activity. You’re actually addicted to it – the electrical flow in the mind and the way it flows in its very tight corridors that you allow it to flow – and it literally blows your mind to feel that you could get out of thinking. So you’re in this constant dilemma, and it’s interesting from our perspective – I think we’ll use it as a case study later on, if you don’t mind …


TOBIAS: It’s interesting, it’s beautiful, it’s wonderful, but what you’re truly asking here is how do you get out of the mind? Well, several things. You stop, you take a deep breath and you make a very conscious choice – not just a mind choice, you see; there’s a difference between a mind choice and a heart choice – and say, “I’m ready to get out of that.” But again, once you do, your life will change. And the question I have back for you is, are you ready to have your life change? And don’t tell me yes, until you really …

SHAUMBRA 6: No. I don’t know that. I don’t know.

TOBIAS: … until you really go in and feel it.

SHAUMBRA 6: Because I … as from today I can feel that. There are things that I’m enjoying and holding onto that get me through, and I would have to let go of all that.

TOBIAS: Indeed, and have you noticed in your patterns that every time you start to open and to feel and to expand, something pulls you back? Now you like to blame it on other things, of course, we all do – you all do (Tobias chuckles) – but you blame it on your partner, you blame it on a job, the economy, the weather, the …

SHAUMBRA 6: My mother …

TOBIAS: … squirrel hibernation patterns (laughter) or anything else that you can. And this becomes now a kind of an excuse, but a mental process. And then when you get tired of that you will start to expand again and to grow and you have great joy and then it pulls you back.

So what is it that’s actually holding back? What is the fear of getting out of the mental – very, very deliberate – mental programming? I’ll give you a few hints – a carry over from Atlantis; the very deliberate hypnosis that the mind is God; and the fear of finding out what happens when the mind doesn’t know the answer, you see.

SHAUMBRA 6: Thank you.

TOBIAS: Indeed, so you can continue with your question if you choose.

SHAUMBRA 6: I just was in my mind, I guess.

TOBIAS: Indeed. And don’t beat yourself up on that …


TOBIAS: … but take a look at what could happen if you’re into true feelings of sensory perception and true openness, and if you … Let’s do this. You’re going to have some situations coming up in your life that require problem solving. Consciously stop yourself. Don’t go into mental solution. Feel into the problem and feel into the many potential solutions without going to the mind. If you feel any pressure in your mind or if you feel the processing start – you’ve taught yourself how not to feel the pressure in your mind – so any time that happens, stop, and don’t try to figure it out, and let yourself just experience it, and let yourself discover that the solution is already there. You don’t have to think your way into it. Now let yourself just go into it, you see.

SHAUMBRA 6: I’ll do my best.

TOBIAS: Don’t try at all. It … oh, I can’t say that. (laughter)

SHAUMBRA 6: No try – it doesn’t matter.

TOBIAS: Just give yourself the freedom of experiencing a little bit of it without pulling yourself back. There are so many talents that you have that are latent right now, ready to come out. Just let them come out.

SHAUMBRA 6: Thank you.

TOBIAS: Thank you. And don’t wait two years to come back.

LINDA: You know, I know Tess and it makes me … listening to Tess makes me really wonder sometimes I think we need to spend more time acknowledging what we are and celebrating what we are and not what we’re not.

TOBIAS: Indeed, absolutely. But let’s also take a look at how we limit ourselves. This is not about right or wrong but this is about, at some level, making a choice to experience in a grander way, but then finding out that it’s difficult to do and finding out that even though the choice has been made, there seems to be barriers. So we go in and part of the whole process of making the choice was to take a look at what doorways were keeping that choice from manifesting.

LINDA: Thank you.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 7 (from the Internet, compiled by Linda): I was reviewing the questions and there were a number of questions, and I’d like to sort of summarize them to bring this topic up. There’s a huge, huge – for lack of a better term – problem with young people seeming to really be challenged and not fitting into the system and really getting lost when they hit kind of high school-ish or right at the end of high school. And it gets so serious that by the time they hit their mid-20’s, we’ve had a number of recent situations where literally they get suicidal. And the kids don’t know what to do and even more so are the parents not knowing how do they support these children, these young people in making that transition of finding a place in the system.

TOBIAS: We’re talking here in particular about the children of Shaumbra …


TOBIAS: … for the most part, just to clarify, because the answer I’m providing here is not universal. It is specific to this group. They have chosen very special parents – Shaumbra parents – who are opened and enlightened and here to be Standards of New Energy. So there’s a very beautiful and particular relationship between the parent and the child. It’s not going to follow any of the old books, the old way of raising children. None of the – that I know of – none of the current psychological programs are going to work. And it makes it more difficult because the young ones try to blend in. They’re actually, in a way, they’re very deliberate about blending in. You’ll find that they don’t like standing out. They don’t like group attention. They’re just trying to keep a low level. And they will for a while, but sooner or later they will emerge out of their own type of cocoon.

They’re going through a tremendous number of integration challenges, because they tend to come in as Crystal or at least very clear or very enlightened beings. They’re very, very sensitive, so they’re having a harder time coping with the energies that are very, very intense right now.

Oftentimes they are so tuned into their parents – to Shaumbra parents – and they start to feel the parent’s concern and fear and a sense of protection and that triggers something within them, and in a way they tend to start acting this out. And although many of you will not agree with my statement here, the best thing the parent can do is not to feel protective – and it goes against the grain for what you’ve been doing – but not to fear for the child, but to celebrate the child, and not to try to solve their problems, and not to – how to say – not to try to provide refuge for them.

Very, very difficult for you Shaumbra parents because you have a very intuitive sense of what’s going on and how difficult energies can be, and you understand the sensitivity that your child has and you do want to protect them. You want to take the arrows to yourself rather than to go to the child. In the long run, it’s really not doing them any good, and actually, they really don’t want it. But they’re playing along with you because they love you and respect you and they think that they should.

The thing to do with them is to treat them not as anomalies or not as something odd or strange, but to treat them on a very soul-to-soul level. Stop treating them as your child. Perhaps I should underline that. Please don’t treat them as your child. You are a carrier for them in this lifetime. You brought them in, but please let go of them as thinking that they’re your child. Start dealing with them on what you would call a higher consciousness peer basis rather than parent to child, and you’re going to see the dynamics between you and them change. This will give them a different sense of respect and self-worth and a different sense of balance within themselves, and they’re going to stop trying to fit in or they’re going to stop trying to act out on their differences, as many of them do.

Some of them are not only taking on the sensitivities of the world and things like depression and sadness and despair, but they’re taking on yours because of the deep connection you have. Energetically, peer-to-peer, God-to-God, make it very clear with them, whether it’s in a spoken word direct to them or in a psychic sense, but make it very clear that you don’t want them to take on your problems and you don’t want them to take on the world problems. They’re here bringing in a very clear energy, and they’re going to emerge. They truly will. They’re going to come out of this funk state that they’re in, this lost state, but right now just breathe with this whole process.

LINDA: What about the suicide aspect of it?

TOBIAS: Indeed, many of them are contemplating going back. The energies here on Earth are difficult right now. So it is … they are very closely connected with the energies on the other side, and you all know that. They talk about the beings that they talk to, they talk about their bizarre dreams, so they’re very closely connected, and some of them do feel a sense of going back. You know, they say to themselves, “Why am I here? What assignment did I take on?”

Instead of fearing, instead of creating drama around suicide, as so many of you have been doing, ask them to take a deep breath. Tell them they are creators, they can choose to come and go as they please. Let’s get away from this suicide mentality and let’s get into a choice mentality.

Now, I’m making a few of you upset here because you say, “Well, what if they leave?” What if they do choose to leave? Can you honor them? Can you still love them? Can you understand that … let’s get through this suicide thing. It invokes fear and it creates a very unpleasant energy with all of you.

One more word on that. I truly encourage you not, please, please, I truly encourage you not to get them into the hands of an old energy psychiatrist who, first of all, will never understand the more enlightened nature of their being, and is going to get them on these drugs. That causes the suicide. That … that is the reason. If you have a child who is suicidal in their attitude, I first ask you to take a look in the medicine cabinet. Have you allowed the prescription of these drugs? Because that will get them in a very altered state that will make it very difficult for them to stay here. So get off of those type of drugs. Can you get these precious beings into breathing … into breathing? That will help them integrate the energies from the other side and this side.

So, I know some of you accuse us of over simplifying, and we are proud of that. Thank you. (laughter)

LINDA: Two more questions?

TOBIAS: Indeed.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 8 (a man at the microphone): Hey Tobias. I want to thank you, first of all, for the ‘it doesn’t matter.’ And I don’t have a question …

TOBIAS: Yes, you have spent so much time, so much time with trying to make it matter, and have you realized in doing so you’ve allowed other people then to act it out for you and keep telling you ‘it does matter, you should be doing this and you should be doing that,’ and intuitively you know it doesn’t matter.

SHAUMBRA 8: Too true.

TOBIAS: Too true.

SHAUMBRA 8: I don’t have a question. I have a request.

TOBIAS: Indeed.

SHAUMBRA 8: That is like me asking you for a gift for maybe all of Shaumbra. And it has a few elements. I want you to tell me a funny story that maybe involves me and you or Saint-Germain or Kuthumi and it can be this life or any other life or in between. Something to remind us of this ‘it doesn’t matter.’

TOBIAS: Well! Aren’t you the one to pop the balloon here, so to speak. (laughter) You’re more psychic than even I knew. (more laughter) Just between us, there’s a few of the stories I want to tell in my departure, in our last days together. I would rather save it for then than do it now, because I am collecting stories about many of you. So, if you don’t mind, indulge me and allow me to do this in our last Shouds together.

SHAUMBRA 8: Thank you.

TOBIAS: Indeed, thank you, and keep working on that very attuned psychic nature. We thought it was a secret. (laughter)

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 9 (a woman at the microphone): Hello Tobias. I have a question about interdimensional expansion.


SHAUMBRA 9: Since the workshop I feel like I have really improved my connection and my communication with my animals. But otherwise I don’t feel like I’ve made much progress, and I wonder if I’m doing something to block or to keep from having the experience or allowing the experience in.

TOBIAS: We’re looking at your energy. We don’t see that. You’re actually working on it very smoothly and it is easier going through the pets first. It’s much easier to expand your energy into things like rocks and trees and water and definitely your pets. That’s going to give you a very good basis or baseline for when you start some of the more nonphysical interdimensional traveling. So I actually, checking your energy out very carefully here, see it’s a wonderful path you’ve chosen. You’re allowing yourself to get proficient in a very balanced way.

SHAUMBRA 9: So just continue what I’m doing?

TOBIAS: Indeed. Indeed, and you’ll know, you’ll feel when you’re ready to go into the next levels, but you don’t need to push it. You don’t need to race into it. It’s just about an experience of allowing yourself – allowing, for all of you – allowing yourself to no longer just be dual in this illusion or this thing you call reality. Now starting to bring in the other dimensional aspects. And by working the pets, one of your next steps that I see is you’re going to start working with some of the entities who are gathering around you. They have a very good connection with you, and once you work with them, then you’re going to start expanding into some of the other dimensions and learning to gracefully handle it while you’re in your physical body on this Earth right now.

It’s one thing to blast out of your body and go play in another dimension. You do it at night – all of you – but now what about bringing all of that into the wakened reality, into this Now moment and being able to be in a dream state while you’re wide awake. To be able to be so expanded into other dimensions but still be able to drive your car down the road. That is living with joy and passion. Thank you.

LINDA: Last question.

TOBIAS: Indeed.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 10 (a woman at the microphone): Tobias, I got a little confused tonight. You explained and ended with the ‘stop with the blaming, you are the creator,’ and I go back to January when you were describing to us your transition into who you call Sam and the … actually, I believe you used the word fear – where other oversouls fear their own creations of getting too close and that’s part of the challenge and the beauty of your transition as compared to, I guess, to, say, your peers.

But at that point you also explained that have you ever … well, if you are one or have you ever known someone who felt completely unloved, unsupported, that they were, because their oversoul could not bear to look at what their incarnation had done and they turned their back on them. So … okay … and then you’re never alone. You’re always loved. Where does all this tie in together?

TOBIAS: Indeed, and when a human decides to go into a place of their own darkness, they create the energy that has the soul and the oversoul turn their back on them. And the oversoul and the soul are doing this in honor, you see. When the being decides they want to be alone, they will create that reality, even though they’re surrounded by the love of other humans or the angels. So it is a manifestation and it is an acting out of everything that is going on with that being.

That’s why we say it’s a game. It’s a beautiful game. It’s a magnificent game that’s being played, but that’s also when we say when you’re ready to understand that you are God … the divinity isn’t out there somewhere. Divinity isn’t a golden angel sitting in a palace or heaven or anything like that. It’s not waiting for 2012 and it’s not waiting for you to get over some of your bad habits.

The divinity is the simplest most beautiful and profound thing, and it’s you. It’s right now. It’s you in this moment. But if you want to pretend that it’s not here, it will go away. If you want to pretend that you are unloved, it will not love you. If you want to pretend that you are less than God also, it will pretend that it’s less than God also. You see?


TOBIAS: It is so you right now. We’ve offended some by playing ‘stop playing games,’ and we’re going to offend them again by saying, ‘stop playing games” – unless you enjoy the games. But then understand they are your games. There’s nobody manipulating it. There is no conspiracy against the divine. It is perception. It is a game.

And again, we ask all of you to say what do you give up when you stop playing the game? When you can understand that you’ll understand why you – not you, but all of Shaumbra – why you continue to play it. There IS a sense of discomfort or unease with saying, “I’m a creator. I Am That I Am.”

There’s also a game that’s played that said if I’m a creator then I should be able to snap my fingers and manifest a million dollars. That’s a game. You’re challenging in a very Old Energy human way. You’re actually trying to become super human rather than very divine. And it’s a game that you continue to play, and then you won’t let yourself manifest it, you see. You actually could. You actually could, but you won’t let yourself because then the game ends.

I know some of you are on your email right now (laughter) – thank God I don’t have an email address, but Cauldre and Linda do – saying, “But Tobias, damn it!” And I say ‘Damn it’ back to you! You’re playing a game. You’re playing the game of being broke or sick or lonely or whatever it is – and it’s wonderful. I admire you. I admire you.

But the only question I ask, based on your, basically, demands to us is, well, when do you want to stop playing it? And you say, “But I’m not playing a game,” and you continue to be impoverished and ill and not a creator. And that’s fine. We love all of you. We truly do, and we honor all of you just as your soul and oversoul and all this other stuff honor you – and are going to play the game right along with you. It is a marvelous game.

But you have said, “I’m done with it.” You’ve said, “Please, somebody come in and tell me it’s a game. Somebody come in and tell me it doesn’t matter.” That’s why we’re here.

SHAUMBRA 10: Excellent. Thank you.

TOBIAS: Indeed. There’s one other question that wanted to be asked – a live question – if you would come back up.

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 11 (a man at the microphone): Thank you, brother. First time here, and I have a …

TOBIAS: Fun, isn’t it.

SHAUMBRA 11: Oh yeah, it’s wonderful. I have a city question, and it’s about Cripple Creek. And I want to know when, how and why that dormant volcano will become active, because I live in Colorado Springs?

TOBIAS: Indeed. You want it to become active?

SHAUMBRA 11: Uh … no, I’m … I have a hunch that in the not too distant future a lot of the Earth mother’s geothermal rumblings will occur around our Earth planet.

TOBIAS: Well, let me say this, and bordering on being a little cautious here for a variety of reasons. There’ll be energy movements, not directly in Cripple Creek, but in a lower, flatter area. And it’s going to be a shaking up of some energies – and not of volcanic type, but there’ll be some other things – because there is a lot of pent up energy in this particular region, which we’re not going to mention. A lot of pent up energy and it needs to be released.

The energy is angry, it’s very, very rigid, and you know what happens when things are rigid? They tend to crack and break. So what we are saying is your intuition is pretty good, but just move a little bit downhill and you’re going to … and don’t think in terms of the type of eruptions that you were talking about. It’s a different type of energy shift.

SHAUMBRA 11: I was always told location, location, location. (laughter)

TOBIAS: Well, location, location, location changes into new, new, new.

SHAUMBRA 11: Oh, yeah. And I – not that I want to plagiarize – but I heard a bunch of really good bumper stickers and I’m wondering if I can use them. Not necessarily to get rich, but …

TOBIAS: Why … why wouldn’t you want to get rich?

SHUAMBRA 11: “You choose the experience.” I like that one.

TOBIAS: Excellent the bumper sticker.

SHAUMBRA 11: Can I use it?

TOBIAS: As long as you say, “Tobias.” (Tobias chuckling and audience laughter)

SHAUMBRA 11: Alright. Oh ho! Oh ho!

TOBIAS: I was jesting with you. Absolutely. Absolutely. These things are wonderful to share. And do expect that it could go beyond bumper stickers and that it could be wonderfully abundant for you.

SHAUMBRA 11: Alright. Namaste, brother.

TOBIAS: Namaste. And you say there’s one more. One more question.

LINDA: One more.

TOBIAS: We’re having too much fun today!

LINDA: Oh, just a playground!

QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 12 (a woman at the microphone): Hi Tobias, I was really busy last year, so I didn’t come and I didn’t read Shouds. And then after Christmas I thought I really need to do a crash course. So I did a crash course. Now, to go back in the fall, I walk with my dog and the little neighbor kids and we pick up the streets and quite often I find coins. And sometimes I find something very unusual. So this fall I was walking down the street … I brought it today, because it’s very special. I found this … see what is? It says ‘N.’ And when I picked it up I thought … now intuitively I knew this was for me and it was really special. I wasn’t going to leave it in the street. It was special.

So anyway, I put it by my journaling material by my bed and then after Christmas I was putting Christmas things away and I slide these plastic boxes under my bed with the Christmas things, and this fell on the floor. And I had just read about the House of Awakening and that some of us were building it. Right?

TOBIAS: Indeed.

SHAUMBRA 12: Never thought to look on the other side. Look what’s on the other side. A nail. And that … I tell you, when those synchronicities happen … see, this is what I like about the New Energy, the synchronicities and the fact that you get such a jump, you know, when that happens. It’s such a wonderful thing.

LINDA: That’s like David’s numerology club, yeah.

SHAUMBRA 12: Yeah! And now you talk about that! Listen, then today I noticed something else on this card I did not notice before today. It has a little tiny 11 on it, and that’s my special number. Thank you!

TOBIAS: Indeed.

SHAUMBRA 12: One more thing. In the feeling … because you know I did this crash course, right. So in the feeling of things, I’ve been doing that for years. I do … on a Friday morning I do a tub meditation and I feel into things.

LINDA: A tub meditation?

SHAUMBRA 12: Uh huh, and I record what I get. Okay. I’ve been doing that for years. And this one day I thought well – it’s been about a couple of weeks ago – I thought, well I’m just going to just feel into the void, just be there, see what happens, right? Because see, I’m a Sagittarian. I think this New Energy is great. I think you just …

LINDA: Did you call my mother? (laughter)

SHAUMBRA 12: See, a Sagittarian just gallops ahead and says, “Whoa! There’s going to be some discovery here,” you know. And so I was doing this and it was just wonderful. I was just sitting in the void just being and just ah! Just great. And then all of a sudden I saw this reptilian eye – huge reptilian eye. I mean, it took me back. Now what was that? And as soon as I asked what is it, it disappeared. Explain. (laughter)

TOBIAS: Indeed. Indeed. This is in your case in particular, but we don’t want everybody to assume that this is their situation, because sometimes these eyes that show up and they’re actually aspects of yourself that are showing up to see what the hell you’re up to. (laughter) Your aspects really are coming from the past and wanting to know how you’re doing in the future.

You also have angelic family members that you haven’t seen or talked to in a long time, and they’re coming from – how to say – a very distant place and they’re checking on you, “Have you gotten it yet?” because when you get it then they can start to get it. So there’s a lot of beings who are checking you out.

In your case, dear one, there are … now I don’t want you to all go into crisis over this, but there are these reptilian type of interdimensional energies. (someone in audiences says “Oh”) Ohhh, sometimes they …

LINDA: Oh, nice …

TOBIAS: They sometimes … (Tobias chuckles). They don’t live under the Earth though … and sometimes they come and probe. They’re very interesting. They’re very mental – that should tell you something. They don’t really have a way of having emotions or feelings of their own. They’ve actually gotten so trapped in the mind – and that should be a warning to all of you – that they’ve lost feeling and emotion. So therefore they have to go feed on it.

They actually don’t look like reptiles, but because they’re not really desirable creatures, you manifest them or you envision them as being reptilian in nature. And they come to feed off of feeling and emotion because they don’t have their own. They would like to steal yours, but every time – not just yours, but everybody – every time they steal emotion, primarily based on fear, anxiety and those more active emotions, they do take it in. They try to feed off of it, but they turn it mental right away. So they have a hunger that’s never actually satisfied.

There’s going to come a point, as we all know, that they go through their own transformation. These are not physical beings, by the way, but they go through their own evolution of their type of planet, whatever you want to call it, where they go beyond. But it’s going to be very difficult for them. It’s going to be hell for them. For the first ones that are making a conscious choice to go beyond mind, it’s going be overwhelming to really own emotion and feeling. They’re going to feel like they’re going through hell. They’re going to feel like they’re being ripped down, torn apart and spit out into the void, because it’s tearing down their old structures and their old patterns of mental processing.

Can you imagine how overwhelming it is to a being who has programmed themselves out of feelings and has been only mental, logical, intellectual or analytical, who now tastes of feeling and emotion once again? It’s overwhelming. They’re going to think they’re dying a thousand deaths.

But after they get over it, they’re going to realize that they are now completing or evolving themselves, and they will become the teacher in their dimensions and realities for how to once again get back to feeling. If it sounds only slightly familiar, it is.

LINDA: Do I have your permission to sell that to South Park as an episode? (laughter)

TOBIAS: Well, now, we don’t have …

SHAUMBRA 12: Thank you, Tobias.

TOIBAS: We don’t have South Park here at the cottage, but we do watch through your eyes, which have seen many, many of these episodes and we’re afraid they would turn it pornographic. (more laugher)

So with that, dear Shaumbra, what a delightful day. Please enjoy life. Please experience yourself as a creator and an un-creator.

And so it is.

Tobias of the Crimson Council is presented by Geoffrey Hoppe, aka “Cauldre,” in Golden, Colorado. The story of Tobias, from the biblical Book of Tobit, can be found on the Crimson Circle web site at The Tobias Materials have been offered free of charge since August 1999, the time when Tobias said humanity moved past the potential of destruction and into the New Energy.

The Crimson Circle is a global network of human angels who are among the first to transition into the New Energy. As they experience the joys and challenges of the ascension status, they help other humans on their journeys through sharing, caring and guiding. Over 100,000 visitors come to the Crimson Circle web site each month to read the latest materials and discuss their own experiences.

The Crimson Circle meets monthly in the Denver, Colorado area where Tobias presents the latest information through Geoffrey Hoppe. Tobias states that he and the others of the celestial Crimson Council are actually channeling the humans. According to Tobias, they are reading our energies and translating our own information back to us so we can see it from the outside, while experiencing it on the inside. The “Shoud” is the portion of the channeling where Tobias steps aside and the energy of the humans is channeled directly by Geoffrey Hoppe.

Crimson Circle gatherings are open to the public. The ultimate purpose of the Crimson Circle is to serve as human guides and teachers to those walking the path of inner spiritual awakening. This is not an evangelical mission. Rather, the inner light will guide people to your doorstep for your compassion and care. You will know what to do and teach in that moment, when the unique and precious human who is about to embark on the journey of the Bridge of Swords comes to you.

If you are reading this and feel a sense of truth and connection, you are indeed Shaumbra. You are a teacher and a human guide. Allow the seed of divinity to blossom within you in this moment and for all times to come. You are never alone, for there is family around the world and angels in the realms around you.

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